What are premium and discount?

How to mark it

The hard part is not the maths, it is choosing the range.

• Pick a swing that matters: a clear low to a clear high, or the reverse, on the timeframe you are actually trading.
• Find its midpoint. Half the distance, nothing more complicated.
• Everything above is premium, everything below is discount.

Change the swing you measured and every label on the chart changes with it. That is the whole weakness of the idea, and pretending otherwise is how people convince themselves that price is at a discount when they simply wanted to buy.

What it is actually for

It is a filter, not a signal. The rule most traders apply is that in an uptrend they look for buys only in the discount half, and in a downtrend they look for sells only in the premium half.

What it is meant to remove is the entry taken at the most expensive price in the range. The filter has a cost, the moves you miss while waiting, and we found no study in a finance journal showing that it pays for itself.

Why it is the same as the fifty percent retracement

Draw a Fibonacci retracement from the low to the high of the same swing. The 0.5 level is the equilibrium. The 0.618 and 0.705 levels, which get a lot of attention in this vocabulary, sit just inside the discount half.

This matters for one practical reason. If you already use retracements, you do not need to learn a second system; you need to name the halves. Knowing that two vocabularies describe one line is what stops you from counting the same evidence twice and calling it confluence.

Where it breaks down

• In a strong trend. Price can spend days in premium and keep rising. Refusing to buy above the midpoint means missing the whole move.
• With no clear range. If you cannot point at the swing low and swing high, the midpoint is invented.
• When the range is stale. A midpoint from two weeks ago describes a market that no longer exists.
• When it is chosen after the fact. Any price can be made to look like a discount by picking a wider swing.

The mistakes that cost the most

• Treating it as an entry. Discount is a condition, not a reason. Something still has to happen at the price.
• Redrawing the range until the answer is the one you wanted. This is the most common and the least noticed.
• Mixing timeframes silently. Discount on the four hour and premium on the fifteen minute are both true, and choosing between them is the actual decision.
• Counting it twice. Equilibrium and the fifty percent retracement are one piece of evidence, not two.

Which swing to measure

Every criticism of this idea comes back to the same weakness: change the swing and every label changes. The answer is not to be careful, it is to have a rule you apply before looking at where you would like to buy.

• The leg that created the structure you are trading. If a high was broken and that break is your reason for being bullish, measure the leg that broke it: from the low it started at to the high it reached.
• Not the whole visible chart. A range measured from the extremes of what happens to be on screen is measured from your zoom level, which is not a market event.
• Re-measure when structure changes, and only then. A new high means a new leg and a new midpoint. Nothing else justifies moving it.

Written down like that, the rule is testable, and anyone can check afterwards whether you followed it. That is the difference between a measurement and a preference.

The deeper half of the discount

Discount is half the range, which is a wide place to be told to buy. Traders therefore narrow it further, usually to the band between the 0.618 and 0.79 retracements, and some call that the optimal entry area.

What the band has going for it is arithmetic rather than mystique: an entry that deep gives a stop just beyond the origin of the leg and a target at its high, so the ratio runs from about 1.5 to one at 0.618 to about 3.5 to one at 0.79, before costs. That is the honest case for it, and a ratio says nothing about how often the target is reached.

What it does not have is any evidence that price turns there more often than elsewhere. The deeper you insist on entering, the fewer trades you get, and at some depth the trade you are waiting for is the one where you were wrong about the direction. The band buys ratio and pays for it in frequency, exactly like every other refinement.

Where it sits in the order of operations

Premium and discount answers one question and only one: is this price expensive or cheap relative to the leg I am trading. That question comes fourth, and asking it earlier produces confident nonsense.

• Direction first. The trend on the timeframe above yours. Without it, premium and discount have no side to be on.
• Then structure. The break that defines the leg you will measure.
• Then the zone. An order block, a gap, or a level worth reacting at.
• Then premium or discount. A filter applied to the zone you already found, not a way of finding one.

Used in that order, traders who rely on it say it removes a whole class of bad trades. Used first, it is just a line at the middle of an arbitrary range, and it will happily tell you that the most expensive price of a downtrend is a discount if you measure from the right place.

Questions people ask

Which swing should I measure from?

The leg that produced the structure you are trading: from the low it began at to the high it reached, or the reverse. Not the extremes of the visible chart, which depend on your zoom rather than on the market. Re-measure when structure changes and at no other time.

Is the 0.705 level special?

Not in itself. It sits inside the deeper half of the discount, where an entry gives a stop just past the origin of the leg and a target at its high, about 2.2 to one. A ratio says nothing about how often the target is reached, and nothing shows that price reverses at that exact number.

What does premium and discount mean in trading?

The two halves of a price range, split at the midpoint. Above the midpoint is premium, considered expensive and therefore the better half to sell in. Below it is discount, considered cheap and the better half to buy in. The midpoint is called equilibrium.

Is equilibrium the same as the fifty percent level?

Yes. Equilibrium is the midpoint of the range you measured, and a Fibonacci retracement drawn across that same range puts its 0.5 level on the same price. Two names, one line, and no extra information in the second name.

What is optimal trade entry?

Optimal trade entry, shortened to OTE, is the narrower band inside the discount half that some traders prefer, usually between the 0.62 and 0.79 retracement of the swing. It is a preference about where inside the discount to act, not a separate concept.

Which range should I measure?

The most recent swing that the current move is working inside, on the timeframe you trade. If two people disagree about whether price is at a discount, they are almost always measuring different swings rather than disagreeing about the maths.

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The same line, arrived at from the other direction: What is a Fibonacci retracement?

The swings you measure between are read from this: What is market structure?

The kind of zone this filter is applied to: What is an order block?

All of these ideas belong to one framework, and it is worth seeing it whole: Smart money concepts, explained plainly

This page is educational. It is not financial advice, and nothing here is a recommendation to buy or sell anything.